Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign.
Welcome everyone, to the Rupp Report. This is Richard Rupp, another weekly episode doing a deep dive into Canadian politics and giving you information from the inside that you really don't find in the mainstream media. And that's always been a pet peeve of mine that the stuff you get on the mainstream media just doesn't really give you what's out there. And you know, so many times I attend events and I see what's been discussed and then I see it on the news at night and I'm like, no, that actually isn't how it all went down. And I was actually there, so decided to do this podcast to give everyone a good analysis of what's happening in our Canadian political spectrum. And there's so much happening right now. So I think there's three main things that we're going to dive into. One, we've just finished an Ontario provincial election. Two, we are heading face forward into a hopeful, sorry, federal election. And the big talk of the town are the tariffs that Donald Trump is putting on Canada. So I have with me again my fantastic producer and guest co host here, Mike.
[00:01:28] Speaker B: Did I just get a pay raise?
[00:01:30] Speaker A: Yeah, I think you might. But you, I have to check with your union if it's acceptable.
[00:01:35] Speaker B: Oh, no, no, please.
[00:01:38] Speaker A: So, Mike, what's new with you?
[00:01:41] Speaker B: You know what, much like you, just surfing the landscape of nonsense that really has taken the entire world, if you think about it, by storm.
[00:01:51] Speaker A: Right.
Canada in particular.
[00:01:54] Speaker B: Yeah. You know what's very interesting is of all of the countries Canada seems to be the target of Trump hardest hit, but he's actually doing it equally in many parts of the world.
[00:02:08] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:02:08] Speaker B: You know, and I, I, I worry about that. I look forward to speaking about that a bit later. I, you know, we just finished up this Ontario election. How did, and so who did you vote for? You don't have to tell me, but I think we all know.
[00:02:22] Speaker A: Yeah, sure, we all know who I voted for and, and who I support. Yeah, Doug Ford did very well. I mean, he did lose a couple of his mps and one of his mps is in a judicial recount until Monday because there was only a 20 vote. The person only won by 20 votes.
[00:02:41] Speaker B: A really rare occasion.
[00:02:42] Speaker A: Very rare. I mean it was a, a nail biter of an election. And shout out to a friend of Patrice Barnes who unfortunately lost her seat in Ajax.
Wonderful, wonderful mpp.
But yeah, you know, look, even Bonnie Cromie, the Queen of Mississauga, the former mayor of Mississauga, couldn't even win a seat in Mississauga and who beat her out? Sylvia got. Who is the mother in law of Patrick Brown?
[00:03:16] Speaker B: When you told me that, I had never, ever made the connection.
[00:03:19] Speaker A: Sure, of course.
[00:03:20] Speaker B: You know, and it's funny because today I ran into Nina who, who's of course, newly elected in that.
[00:03:29] Speaker A: Nina Tangerine.
[00:03:30] Speaker B: Yeah. And, and what a, what a really lovely person.
[00:03:34] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:03:34] Speaker B: I must say.
[00:03:35] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:03:35] Speaker B: But that, I think that whole, that whole area, Streetsville, down through that Mississauga belt.
[00:03:42] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:03:43] Speaker B: They have a very, very blue streak.
[00:03:45] Speaker A: Running down there, surprisingly. And the funny thing is, shockingly, yeah. Federally, it's all red.
[00:03:51] Speaker B: Yeah. That's why this, and this is my next question to you. All this blue at the provincial time of, you know, election.
What does that mean federally? Because.
And I'm happy to stay on the.
[00:04:07] Speaker A: Provincial side of things either way, but.
[00:04:09] Speaker B: Federally, it just seems to me that it never balances out that way. It uses to have a Conservative provincial government in Ontario and a Conservative government in holding, you know, Parliament Hill is rare.
[00:04:26] Speaker A: So there's an old belief for those of you, for outside of Ontario, there's an old, old belief that dates back, I think, really to Bill Davis's days when he was a, the Progressive Conservative.
[00:04:37] Speaker B: That wasn't that long ago, was it?
[00:04:39] Speaker A: You and I were children and before we were born. Okay. That was like he held onto her like 40 years. And he was a, basically a Red Tory. Like he, he governed on a Liberal side, but he held on to power for a very long period of time. And I think Doug Ford is, is trying to learn from him and, and copy that kind of thing versus a true Conservative like Mike Harris. And I think Doug Ford, who's older than us, looks at the old adage of if it's Liberal in federally, it'll be Conservative provincially in Ontario, and if it's Liberal in Ontario, it Conservative federally. Now, that hasn't always held true, especially in recent times. And there's so much immigration that's happened in Ontario in the past 20 years that many of these people don't necessarily think that way. But I can tell you from the inside, Doug Ford was thinking about or was advised to pull an election as way back as, as October. And he wasn't sold on the idea. But when the, but now that the tariffs and the, and Trump and all have come in, it gave him the impetus, the reason, to pull the plug. Whether that was the real reason or I'm not going to comment on it, but that gave him the reason to pull the plug and to use it as an excuse And I think part of his way of thinking is Pierre Poliev and the Conservatives federally were so high in the polls that if Pierre wins the federal election and then next year is the supposed provincial election, he might, he might be out, right? He might. And it would give Bonnie Crombie too much time, too much Runway, to build up her brand, build up her name. So if you cut her off of the knees right now and you hold this election, yeah, you might be screwing over the Federal Conservatives. But that's what I'm wondering.
[00:06:28] Speaker B: Do you think Pierre Poliev right now is saying, for God's sake, you had to call an election?
[00:06:32] Speaker A: Well, I think every, Listen, every Federal Conservative is thinking that not only a, the polls have changed, but the polls have changed because the media is giving free advertising to Mark Carney, Christia Freeland and the Liberal Party for their federal leadership. So they're having a honeymoon phase right now. And people have amnesia. Canadians have found amnesia and have forgotten about what the Liberals have done the past 10 years and Justin Trudeau. And as if they're blaming it all on Justin Trudeau and not the Liberal mps who voted for all this crap that has screwed Canada over. So that's the first thing. So now the tariffs added on to that. You can see the poll numbers are changing and are shifting. They're stabilizing now. They're coming back up for the Conservatives just in the last few days. But the spread between Conservatives and Liberals that they enjoyed for a year now has almost disappeared to a fraction of what it used to be. So those are the two things. And a lot of you, what.
[00:07:34] Speaker B: If you want, if you want to keep things equal, here's my suggestion, okay? When you get polled right, tell them that you're voting Liberal.
Every poll, Every poll, tell them you're voting Liberal.
[00:07:47] Speaker A: Okay?
[00:07:47] Speaker B: Because these polls are so swayed that if, if. And, and I'll be honest with you, this is how Donald Trump got in the first time. Okay? He had the poll makers really working on his side, but he had his constituents working even harder. And he said to them, when they call and poll you, you say you're voting for Hillary.
And then there was all of this news that Hillary had such a huge percentage of the vote.
[00:08:11] Speaker A: Right.
[00:08:12] Speaker B: That the hate vote and the actual Trump vote was just more. Right.
[00:08:17] Speaker A: I get it. So, hey, that might work in Canada.
[00:08:20] Speaker B: Go ahead, you try it.
[00:08:21] Speaker A: Try it. I, I can't suggest whether that's going to work or not.
[00:08:26] Speaker B: What do you think of the general. I mean, it was a sweep in Ontario Yeah. What do you think of some of the outlying, not Toronto cities and how they fared across the board?
[00:08:40] Speaker A: Well, generally places outside of Toronto are generally conservative, except you go to places like Hamilton that tend to be ndp. So when you.
[00:08:49] Speaker B: Sorry, the NDP still around.
[00:08:50] Speaker A: The NDP is the official opposition in Ontario.
[00:08:53] Speaker B: Oh, that's true. Oh, my God, that's amazing to me.
[00:08:56] Speaker A: Think about it. What? You know, the only advantage that the Liberals took out of this election is they are now considered an official party. Like not official opposition, but they have party status now, which they didn't have for the last two elections. All right. But their leader, who's staying on, doesn't have a seat in the legislature.
[00:09:14] Speaker B: Okay, right.
[00:09:15] Speaker A: So that's, that's the interesting thing. But they're the third place party, so who really cares? People think, okay, it's the ndp, they're still the official opposition and they have a seat at the table.
[00:09:25] Speaker B: That's wild, isn't it? Yeah.
[00:09:27] Speaker A: Yeah. Even though the NEP lost some seats then and the Liberals gained some seats.
[00:09:31] Speaker B: But what do you think some of the benefits of Ford getting back in here? I mean, aside from what we're dealing with right now, where do you see his premiership taking the province?
[00:09:43] Speaker A: Stability, somewhat conservative values. You know, not very right wing, somewhat conservative values, more stability, better education system.
You know, a lot of money was spent though, giving everyone $200 checks. So that put the province further in debt.
[00:10:02] Speaker B: I hear there's, there's a rumor that there might be a tariff relief check going to everybody too.
[00:10:07] Speaker A: Well, this is federal. I don't know about provincial, but this is what the.
[00:10:10] Speaker B: I'm hearing the Liberals level, they're talking about that as well.
[00:10:13] Speaker A: Well, it wouldn't surprise me because there's a close friendship or at least a close relationship between Trudeau and, or the Liberals and Doug Ford. So that wouldn't surprise me.
[00:10:25] Speaker B: How is the relationship between Doug Ford and polio?
[00:10:29] Speaker A: What relationship?
[00:10:30] Speaker B: Right. Okay.
That's why.
[00:10:34] Speaker A: Unfortunately. Unfortunately.
[00:10:35] Speaker B: Is that because you think that the moves in Ontario are too not in lockstep with the federal approach?
[00:10:44] Speaker A: No. A lot of this stems back and many people may not know this, a lot of this stems back to the 2019 election where at the beginning of the election, knocking on doors, the biggest thing that people were saying after the first year of Doug Ford winning, the winning from the Liberals, people all saying, oh, Doug Ford, Doug Ford. And they were. They're hating on Doug Ford. So Andrew Scheer, who was the leader at the time, right. Basically told Doug Ford, you know, please Stay at home, don't help us. Which wasn't the best thing necessarily, because Doug Ford has Ford Nation and which is separate really from the Conservative Party. It's massive. And, and they could have mobilized and utilized that. And the 2019 election was a lot closer than the 2021. So it may not have been the best strategy. May have backfired on us. And since then, there's really been no love lost between the Federal Conservative Party, which is the Conservative Party of Canada, not the Progressive Conservative Party, and the Provincial, which is the Progressive Conservative Party.
[00:11:47] Speaker B: Okay. So now if you don't mind the talk of the town.
[00:11:51] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:11:53] Speaker B: Tariffs. The whiplash is relentless.
[00:11:56] Speaker A: And it's, it's never ending. It's back and forth and.
[00:11:58] Speaker B: But it's like it finds, Find something. I'm gonna, you're gonna tear up.
[00:12:01] Speaker A: I'm gonna take it off. I'm gonna put it on. Canada's gonna get it. Mexico's gonna get relief. No, I'm gonna put it on both. China's gonna get an extra 10%. Europe's gonna get like, it's, it's just never ending. And then Ontario, I mean, we're playing games too. Oh, we're going to take all American alcohol, California wines, etc, off the shelf. All off the shelf. And then, you know, really, to me, I think it's a little bit small minded. Starlink is a brilliant concept that can help people in rural areas. And we don't have broadband Internet across Canada with a very vast country, but it's sparse and yet you have something like starlink. Oh, but because it's Elon Musk, Doug Ford decides I'm going to punish Elon Musk.
[00:12:46] Speaker B: So that actually I heard come up as one of the questions. I spent my morning with Premier Ford. Lucky.
[00:12:52] Speaker A: Nice.
[00:12:53] Speaker B: Yeah. It was actually very fun.
[00:12:54] Speaker A: And he's a nice guy.
[00:12:55] Speaker B: Yeah. Really genuinely seems like a nice guy. Yes, but. And he, he actually handled with some great class a couple of protesters that stood up as soon as he spoke.
[00:13:06] Speaker A: They're always a bunch of protesters.
[00:13:09] Speaker B: Very expensive seats for protesters to buy. I don't know where they raise their funds, but it also wasn't that effective. He handled it very well. But one of the things that did come up was. Hold on a second. You're really causing a problem up north for these people.
[00:13:27] Speaker A: Right.
[00:13:27] Speaker B: And rural areas over a deal that Elon Musk. It's a rounding error on his bank account.
[00:13:33] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:13:33] Speaker B: So it is a message, but it's going to be laughed at by Elon Musk.
[00:13:37] Speaker A: It's inconsequential. And the thing is, why are you punishing. You think you're punishing Elon Musk? Like, why? I mean, he's. He's not even a paid. He's doing the work for Doge. He's not even paid. He's not taking a salary. He's doing a commendable job, notwithstanding the vitriol that comes out in the media against him. If he can find half a trillion dollars to save the American taxpayer, don't you think we should have a Doge in Canada? Maybe we should have a Doge in Ontario. Maybe we should have someone going through the books and seeing where all this money is going to. You know, look at all the money that the, the Liberals have been paying out. Frank Bayless and. And all sorts of other people that have been making hundreds of millions of dollars in contracts, and then they don't even provide the services, but they're still pocketing the money.
[00:14:26] Speaker B: I think that. This is my personal opinion. I think Doge is complete shit. Sorry, I took out the wrong word. Let me say that again. Complete bolt and insert beep here. Yeah, we had a beep. Now, the reason I think it's horse hockey. Is that better?
[00:14:44] Speaker A: Well, that's very Canadian.
[00:14:45] Speaker B: Is. Is because it's not.
It really doesn't impact too much to the consumer outside of automobiles, outside of hard goods. What?
[00:14:57] Speaker A: Doge?
[00:14:58] Speaker B: No, no, I'm sorry. I'm thinking. Sorry. The tariffs. The tariffs don't really mean too much in Doge making. No, sorry. What I mean is the, the tax savings will not show up in. In at the bottom line for consumers and for Americans. I really don't believe that. I think that it just goes to the wasteland that is their debt overall.
[00:15:17] Speaker A: Right.
[00:15:18] Speaker B: Trillions and trillions and trillions.
[00:15:19] Speaker A: Right.
[00:15:20] Speaker B: But it doesn't do anything for the US Economy in any short order. I don't think it does anything for. And I think the same about the tariffs. They won't be felt by the average consumer enough to really cause this kind of chaos.
[00:15:34] Speaker A: Well, but. Exactly. And I think that's more chaos than anything. This is. What it is, is causing instability and chaos.
[00:15:40] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. Well, look, it looks like we have a rap moment as the door lines up. But before we do that, do you mind if we take a couple of minutes and get your review overall of what you think the tariff response will be, how you feel the federal government's handling it? Because we see a lot of Doug Ford at the moment. We don't have a lot of we don't have a lot of our Prime Prime Minister saying anything with great meaning.
[00:16:10] Speaker A: Well, you know, our Prime Minister is just saying, you know, nasty things about Trump and it's, it's a pissing match between the two of them and it's really disgraceful. And he's out the door as of Sunday, so.
And who knows? Most likely Mark Carney will replace him, which is just Trudeau version 2.0. And it's the same, it's the same people around him. So that's the big concern now. The big, the bigger concern is that they're talking with the NDP about making a Serb or a benefit for people that have lost their jobs through the tariffs. And that just is going to put the country further and further into debt rather than solving the issue, which is the issue with the border, the issue with fentanyl, the issue with unfair trade practices, etc. Etc. So why aren't our federal government, why is our federal government so hell bent on spending money, printing money, giving money out? And maybe this is unaccounted for money. Maybe we do need a doge here because maybe we don't know who is all getting the checks.
[00:17:20] Speaker B: Who would you put in charge of the doge here?
[00:17:23] Speaker A: I don't know. Does Elon Musk have a brother? I, I, I don't know. I don't know.
[00:17:26] Speaker B: He's making enough kids. He could send one of his kids here. How's that?
[00:17:29] Speaker A: We have to pick somebody. We have to pick somebody. But the thing is the federal government, it's been my contention for many, many years, looking at the Liberals up close.
[00:17:41] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:17:41] Speaker A: That their goal is to destro from within. It's a very Marxist goal. When the way you do it through Marxism, through socialism is, is to just, is to rip apart a country's national identity. Right. You take away. And how do you do that? You start renaming streets, you start renaming buildings, you burn down churches and don't turn and turn a blind eye to hundreds of churches being burned down. You, and nobody gets prosecuted for it. You tear down statues of our first prime minister, you accuse people of slavery and want to rename things when the fact is that they were anti slavery. But when the fact comes out, well, too late. Oops, it's too late and nobody really cares and the media just whitewashes it. So how do you destroy a country from within? The Liberals are doing it perfectly. So the other thing to do if you want to bring in a socialist system, is to bankrupt a country from within and destroy the middle class. Because if you have a wealthy, successful middle class, they're going to fight for tax breaks, they're going to fight for every little bit that they earn. But if you have a decimated middle class, they're going to fight for government handouts. And when you have government handouts, then you have the government in control of everything. And they'll tell you what to do, what to inject in your arm, what, what things you can spend on where you should live. I mean, just look at the former Soviet Union. It was all right there. I mean, it's history just repeating itself. And we have to be careful that we don't go down that slippery slope. So hopefully we have an election. I'm still 50. 50, whether there's going to be an early election or not.
[00:19:23] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know anymore. It seems to me that they need some more ramp and that's the thing.
[00:19:28] Speaker A: How much ramp are they going to take? Because if they have more ramp, the economy is going to start collapsing under the tariffs. Carney's lies are coming to the surface. He's peaking in the polls now and actually has plateaued. So yes, it makes sense that he could call an election. By the way, here's some other inside information. Not only are the Conservative candidates being told to immediately find a campaign office, but the Liberal candidates are now told to order your signs and find a campaign office. So that when I see those kind of signals, it tells me that an election is getting ready.
[00:20:01] Speaker B: Very interesting. Okay, right.
[00:20:02] Speaker A: You're starting your preparing for a war. On the other hand, maybe they might not pull the trigger because if they're already being exposed for lies, Carney, if they are already plateauing on the polls and people are saying, you know what, the five points up for the Conservatives and five points down for the Liberals, then they may say, look, we can hold on till October and we have the backing of the ndp because the NDP may not vote non confidence. They may go back on the word provided, as Jag Singa said, provided that the federal Liberals do offer some sort of a Serb or extended EI for people who are going to lose their.
[00:20:43] Speaker B: Jobs directly affected by.
[00:20:45] Speaker A: Directly affected by the tariffs. Right.
[00:20:47] Speaker B: So the ND government to do that though.
[00:20:50] Speaker A: Well, but the government will come back on March 24 and the first thing they have to do is. Is a, A throne speech. Yeah, no, it's a throne speech, but.
[00:20:57] Speaker B: They have to react to this.
[00:20:58] Speaker A: They have to react to it immediately. So. Well, throne speech fast vote for that. A supply bill vote. And then, and then immediately put on the table. And maybe this is what they're going to try to do to screw the conservists. We don't know. They might put a bill up for. And, and instead of a first reading, second reading, third reading, they might put a bill to, with the first reading that. For consent that if they can have unanimous consent, they don't have first, second and third reading. And that bill would be for UI, for affected workers. And then if the Conservatives don't vote for it or the block or whoever, then they'll put the blame on the Conservatives and say, see, this is like mini Trump. And this is the unfair attack that they're putting on Pierre Pollyv. They're calling him like Trump Light. And I think that's really completely unfair.
[00:21:42] Speaker B: I do, too. I also think Polly have needs to develop a personality in front of the public that's a little less intense.
That's all I have to say about that. Sorry, I just blew my opportunity to meet him.
[00:21:54] Speaker A: Well, he's an incredibly intelligent guy, but.
[00:21:56] Speaker B: I mean, yeah, it's, he's an incredibly, like. What's the word I'm looking? I mean, he's the guy that the stiff farmer wants.
[00:22:04] Speaker A: You know, he'd be great if he wasn't the leader of the Conservatives in the future Prime Minister. Hopefully he'd be fantastic on Doge because he knows his numbers, like, unbelievable. And he might actually be able to do something like that, even as Prime Minister. He knows his numbers. He knows where, where the money is being wasted. You know, he might actually be brilliant at that. And, and I think Canadians need to think long and hard. Don't listen to the media hate fest that's out there against Trump and against Elon Musk. Just look at what they're doing. If they're finding people on the pension rolls that are 250 years old or 150 years old, there's got to be a problem. There's a problem there. And what, okay, so what's happening in Canada? I mean, look how far we've gone in debt. You know, they lied to us in 2015. Trudeau said, I'll just do small deficits. 5 billion, 10 billion. Like they're doing 80 billion, 68 billion deficits year after year after year.
[00:23:07] Speaker B: I don't believe in Doge.
[00:23:09] Speaker A: Fair enough. See, you can have a difference of opinion.
[00:23:11] Speaker B: I don't believe it because I just feel that it's, it's all going to be bad accounting.
[00:23:16] Speaker A: So, okay, how about this?
[00:23:17] Speaker B: It's not forensic. It can't be there's no way it's forensic.
[00:23:20] Speaker A: This quickly left. Well, hold on. He's got apparently some brilliant people running algorithms through the computers. Young guys.
[00:23:28] Speaker B: And I don't trust the young guys. I don't trust computers. I want to see some accountants with bald heads in there.
[00:23:34] Speaker A: You sound like Donald Trump.
So here's the thing. Let's leave it to the audience. Let's leave it to the audience. I want your comments. What do you think? Do you trust Doge or do you not trust Doge? Do you think Canada should have a Doge? Do you trust Elon Musk? Do you think the job that he's doing is right or wrong? I want your comments and I want your feedback. I'd really like to take the pulse of the audience. So please share with me your comments. What do you think about Doge, Elon Musk, and does Canada need to look at waste or are we all.
[00:24:04] Speaker B: Okay, It's a good question.
I'm going to answer. I'm going to send in my comment, please.
[00:24:10] Speaker A: I'm scared to read it, though.
[00:24:12] Speaker B: I think you've already heard part of it. Well, Richard, thanks for this.
[00:24:16] Speaker A: It's my pleasure, Mike. I really enjoy doing this and I'm really thankful to all the listeners out there and the feedback that I've been getting from people who've been listening to the show, especially people who have not been politically motivated or active before, and now they're interested and they're hearing things that they didn't know or understand or, or they wanted, you know, more information on. It's really refreshing to get that kind of feedback. And, you know, I want to thank Mike and I want to thank the production crew because honestly, the amount of subscribers that keep increasing time and time again and, and we're on how many platforms?
[00:24:52] Speaker B: 45 platforms every time.
[00:24:54] Speaker A: That's amazing. 45 platforms and more, more, many more.
[00:24:57] Speaker B: But the top 45 for sure.
[00:24:58] Speaker A: That is amazing. So whether you're listening to it on a Spotify or iHeartRadio or Apple Podcasts or whatever the case may be to thank you, I really want you to share this with your friends and I want you to make sure that you subscribe. If you're. If you are not subscribing to it, subscribe so that you can get valuable information every week. And then that just helps us grow this channel. Thank you so much. And come back again for the RUP Report.
